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It’s one thing to get back up after a tremendous fall. It’s another to give back to others even after that. Rod Khleif is a multiple business owner and philanthropist who is passionate about real estate, business, and giving back. After losing $50 million in the crash of 2008, Rod immediately bounced back to success without missing the heart to help those in need. He narrates his humble beginnings as a young, impoverished Dutch immigrant to becoming one of the country’s top business real estate and peak performance luminaries. Highlighting the very important part of real estate, Rod talks about the kind of mindset and psychology required not only to recover from a fall but to rise to success.
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How To Develop The Mindset And Psychology To Succeed with Rod Khleif
Our guest is Rod Khleif. Thanks for being on the show, Rod.
We’re going to have a lot of fun. Thanks for having me.
I’m honored to have you on the show. I’ve enjoyed getting to know you a little bit over the last few months specifically and it’s an honor to have you on. As most of the readers probably know, in case you don’t, I want to tell you a little about him. He’s going to elaborate on his experience in this business, but he’s a multiple business owner and philanthropist who is passionate about real estate, business and giving back. As one of the country’s top business real estate and peak performance luminaries, Rod has owned over 2,000 homes and apartment buildings and has built over 22 businesses in his 40-year business career, several of which have been worth tens of millions of dollars. Rod soared from humble beginnings as a young, impoverished Dutch immigrant to incredible success.
His experience involves both remarkable triumphs and spectacular failures, which he affectionately calls seminars. Rod will explain the mindset required to recover from losing $50 million in the crash of 2008 to the success he enjoys now. He brings incredible authenticity and insight into his approach to real estate business success in life. He founded the Tiny Hands Foundation, which has benefited more than 50,000 community children in need. He’s also the host of the number one real estate podcast, Lifetime CashFlow through Real Estate Investing. If you’re not listening, you should be with six million downloads to date. He’s the author of How to Create Lifetime Cashflow through Multifamily Properties: The New Rules of Real Estate Investing.
We’ve fed 65,000 children over the last many years. What a gift that’s been.
That says a lot about you. In case the readers don’t know, I’d love to hear your story and the crash. I would imagine it’s hard to tell.
I’m past it, but let me back up. I immigrated this country from Holland when I was six years old. We didn’t have a lot of money. I lived in Denver for many years, but my mom had an incredible work ethic. I ended up wearing clothes from the Goodwill and The Salvation Army all the way through junior high school until I could get a job and buy clothes. We ate expired food and drank powdered milk. I know lots of people had it harder than we did, but I knew I wanted more. Luckily, my mom taught me about work. She babysat kids. With our babysitting money, she bought the house across the street when I was fourteen. When I was seventeen, she told me she made $20,000 on it in her sleep and gone up in the value of $20,000.
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I’m like, “What? I’m getting into real estate. That’s incredible. All you did was you bought it and it went up in value.” I got into real estate and I got my real estate broker’s license, which you could do with education back then. You didn’t need the experience. When I turned eighteen, I got my broker’s license. I was a broker and I started selling real estate. I made $8,000 to $10,000 my first year, $10,000 to $12,000 my second year, but my third year I made over $100,000. What happened between year two and three? I met a guy that taught me about mindset and psychology. 80% of your success in anything is your mindset and your psychology. Fast forward to now, I’ve owned over 2,000 houses and multiple apartment complexes.
In fact, we bought 1,000 doors lately. It’s been crazy. In 2006, my net worth went up to $17 million while I slept. If you want to do the math on that, it’s about $8,000 an hour over a 40-hour workweek, which I did. Whenever something like that happens, there’s a tendency to get a big hit. I thought I was a real estate god. I could barely fit my head through the door. I got cocky and when you do that, God, the universe or whatever you believe in will give you smackdown. That was 2008. I got crushed in 2008. I lost $50 million. I call them seminars because they’re only failures if you don’t get back up or you fail to learn. I’ve done lots of seminars. We’ve all had lots of seminars, it just happened to be a big one. I thought I was set for life. I thought 80 million Baby Boomers were getting old and getting cold. Florida was going to survive anything. Little did I know we were ground zero for the crash. I could share with your readers what it took to recover from that and what it took to get there in the first place. It is about mindset and psychology. The real estate stuff you talk about on your show and when I talk about on my show are important. Without the mindset, you’ll never take action with what you learn.
It sounds like you learned a lot about mindset from year two to three, but then you also learned a lot about mindset in 2008.
The other thing is I was blessed to meet Tony Robbins and I spent many years following him around the planet. If you have an opportunity to see the guy live, do it. Trust me. You’ll be glad you did. Thank God I was around that environment when it all crashed for me in 2008. A lot of people didn’t recover from it. Truly, I thought I was set for life. I had 800 houses. I had multiple apartment complexes. I was at a 30% loan devalue. That’s all I owed was $0.30 on every dollar and I still crashed and burned. The reason being, a lot of people ask why, I had 800 houses, two hours one direction, two hours the other direction, everywhere in between. They were up and down the Gulf Coast of Florida. Florida has no state income tax. The property taxes are higher here. Additionally, a lot of my properties were in wind and flood zones, the insurance was tired, all of which impacts cashflow.
The biggest thing was logistics, coupled with the fact that a lot of my residents were in construction and C-class houses which fell off a cliff in 2008. If I sent a maintenance guy to one of my apartment complexes to fix something, everything’s the same. You can stockpile plumbing parts, appliance parts, HVAC parts, everything’s the same. It’s easy, door hardware and everything. I could send a maintenance guy and he could be in and out in an hour, but if I sent him to one of my houses, it could be an hour away. There are two hours eaten up and then they get there and everything’s different. They have to assess what’s wrong. They’ve got to find a Lowe’s or a Home Depot, which could be 30 minutes away and buy the parts and then they get back and you know how things go. They realize they’ve missed something. They’ve got to go back and get something else. What takes 30 minutes to an hour in one of my apartment complexes is a day at one of my houses. You multiply that by 800 and everything else I mentioned. It was the perfect storm.
That’s why I crashed. How did I get back from it? Here’s how I got back, knowing what it is that I want and wanted and why I wanted it. I’ve got one live event coming up in Baltimore. At my live events, one of the first things we do is a goal-setting workshop. Most people spend more time planning Christmas or a birthday than they do designing their lives. If you don’t know what it is you want, how are you ever going to get it? You need crystal clear clarity on what it is that you want. This is how I recovered was remembering what I wanted and then why I wanted it. Here’s the process. Pick an hour when you’re uninterrupted and don’t do it right after a meal. Make sure you’re well-hydrated. Drink a lot of water. Sit down and write down everything you could ever possibly want in life. Obviously the stuff, the houses, the boats, the jet skis, the planes, the cars or whatever it is. Take the lid off your brain and imagine if you write it down that you’ll get it, which is not outside the realm of reality.
When I was eighteen, I knew I wanted a house on the beach. There are no beaches in Denver and I knew I was going to live on the beach. It took me many years, but I built this incredible 10,000 square foot, $8 million mansion on the beach. I lost it in what I just described, but I got it. Take the lid off your brain. If you want a private island, a private jet or whatever it is, write it down. That starts the process. What that does is it triggers something in your brain called your reticular activating system, which is that filter in your brain that subconsciously determines what you should focus on or what you should see. It’s subconscious. A great example is when you first buy a car. You don’t notice them, but when you buy the car, you see them everywhere.
That’s your reticular activating system working. Writing your goals down triggers that. Write down everything you could ever possibly want. How much money do you want in a few years in the bank? How much do you want in several years in the bank? How much cashflow do you want in a few years from your assets? How many doors do you want? How many do you want in several years? Write all the stuff down, the income requirements down, goals down. Don’t stop there. I want you to write down anything you want to learn or anything you want to do in this lifetime. You want to go climb mountains, write a book. Me, I’m jumping out of a perfectly good airplane. My son wrote me into this. It’s my biggest fear of heights and I’m conquering it. I’m doing that.
What do you want to do? What do you want to learn? I want to learn how to play the drums. I’ve got a drum set in one of the other buildings in my complex. I don’t even know what end of the stick to use yet. I’m going to learn. I’ve got a great rhythm and I’d love to play the drums. I’m going to do that. My wife bought me a set but I don’t know how to use it. I want to know how to fly helicopters. Write down what you want to learn, not just the stuff. Also, write down who you want to help. We talked about feeding families, who do you want to do something for?
I bought my parents a house on a canal here in Florida when they were alive. I bought them a car. I took them on cruises. Who do you want to do something for, children? This is the fuel that gets you up early in the morning and it keeps you up late at night to take massive action. Write it all down. Who do you want to help? Your children, your family, your friends, the community, the elderly, children in general, animals or whatever it is. Once you’re done, I want you to put a number by each goal because it’s not real until it’s measurable. How many years is it going to take you to achieve it? Use a one, three, five, even a ten or a twenty.
Don’t overthink it and just guess. Remember one thing, as human beings, we will overestimate what we can do in a year and massively underestimate what we can do in a decade. That house on the beach was unthinkable when I was eighteen to twenty years old, but it’s a matter of focus and massive action. Any goal is attainable. The next thing I want you to do is to pick your number one goal. If you get this goal, I’d be, “This is amazing.” Pick that goal. If there are two or three of them, pick one. It won’t matter what we’re going to do next. If there’s two or three that are equally exciting, pick one of your top, most amazing, incredible goals and put it on a separate sheet of paper.
Pick three one-year goals and put those on a separate sheet of paper. You’ve got four goals on a separate sheet of paper. This is where most people stop. In fact, most people don’t even get this far. People spend more time planning Christmas than they do thinking about their lives. You’ve got these four goals on a separate sheet of paper. The goals are important. They will drive you, they will push you, pull you and propel you. What motivates you and gets you to take action is why those goals are a must. I want you to write a paragraph for each one why it’s an absolute must for you to get it. Use emotionally-charged words like incredible, massive and amazing. Words are incredibly powerful. Use them.
I can show my kids what success looks like, so I can show my wife or husband what success looks like. We have the freedom to do whatever we want, go wherever we want, do it whenever we want, bring whoever we want. Whatever it is for you, write it down, the why. It’s the why that’s going to juice you. This is the fuel. This is what got me out from underneath the rock after a couple of months in 2008 and 2009 when I got crushed. This is what got me to that network to begin with was focusing on what I want and why I wanted it. Write the why down. Use other people. Will do more for others than will do for ourselves, so I can spend more time with my kids, so I can have the freedom to do what I want. We can go on trips, whatever it is, write it down. In your goals, you should have written down places you want to go and visit and all that. I’ve got a travel vision board.
Once you’re done with writing your positive reasons why it’s an absolute must for you to achieve that goal, I want you to put some pain in there. We’re almost done. That’s one of the last steps is put some pain in there if you don’t achieve the goal. As human beings, we will do more to avoid pain than gain pleasure. I would put in there so I don’t feel like a failure, so I don’t live a life of regret, so I don’t fail my children, so I don’t fail my spouse. Make it harsh. I know it sounds harsh, but this is the fuel. We want to do anything we can to avoid that happening. Put some pain in there. There was a nurse in Australia that wrote a book called The Top Five Regrets of the Dying. What this nurse did was interview hospice patients and asked them what their regrets were. Do you know what the number one regret was? Not living up to the life they could have lived. No regrets, my friends. This is how you avoid regret by making sure you know exactly what it is you want with clarity. Clarity is power and then knowing why you want it.
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You’ve written down the goals and the whys. Write down a paragraph of the type of a person it would take to achieve these goals because what got you here is not going to get you there. All the traits that you’re going to have to embody are already inside of you like a driven, focused, entrepreneurial, fearless leader. A giving, loving, grateful driver that makes things happen. Write a paragraph of the kind of person it’s going to take to achieve these goals. The more you can associate with that person, the more likelihood of these goals coming to fruition. Write a description and identity statement as it were of who it’s going to take to achieve these goals.
The last piece is you must get pictures of them and I’ll give you some examples of how I did it in my life. When I turned eighteen, I bought this four-door Ford Granada, the ugliest thing you ever saw. I knew I needed a four-door to show houses because I was going to be a real estate broker. I worked with a guy that had a Corvette and he let me drive it. That’s a key piece as well, that experiential piece. He let me drive that car. What I did, this was before you could even spell internet. I went on a magazine and I got a picture of a Corvette and I taped it to the visor of my bone-ugly four-door Granada. Within a couple of years, I had a beautiful Corvette. I’m going to give you a couple more examples and I’ll land the plane. Let me pre-frame these examples by saying this is not me bragging because the things I want to describe here don’t interest me anymore.
This was back when the TV show Magnum PI was out. The actor’s name was Tom Selleck and he drove this awesome Ferrari 308. I thought that was the coolest thing I’d ever seen. I got a picture of that actual car and put it on the visor of my Corvette. Within a couple of years, I had a beautiful red Maserati that looked just like it. The last example, another car example, is I always wanted a Lamborghini. When I was growing up, I had posters of a Lamborghini Countach, the car that Mike Tyson got his wife and himself for whatever the week they were married. I knew I was going to get a Lamborghini. What’s crazy is my son collected models of exotic cars. I bought some for him, he bought some for himself, but he had a model of the exact same color and style Lamborghini that I ended up getting, which I ultimately wrecked.
Pictures are important. Let me give you another example. I’ve got a planner and on the back of this thing there are pictures that I’ve had for many years. I have gratitude pictures with my kids when they were young. Everything starts from a foundation of gratitude. After that, I’ve got the pictures of the things that I wanted, the houses that I wanted, which is crazy is that these pictures look like the house that I built on the beach and one looks like the compound that I have on the bay. I lost that house. I live in a compound now with six buildings, two acres, a beautiful giant main house. I’ve got a guest house on the water with incredible views. I’ve got a media building with a theater room. I’ve got a conference center above it. God’s got a sense of humor, I can see my old house across the bay that I used to own. These pictures work and the back of this thing, I’ve got pictures of houses before I ever got them. I’ve got pictures of other stupid stuff. I’ve got a few hundred thousand dollars’ worth of watches, the Lamborghini before I ever got it, the Rolls Royce. All this stuff that I got because I had pictures. Those of you that are analytical thinking, all this is a little foofy for me, big mistake. Pictures work. I’ve got vision boards of the things that are important to me now.
That’s the process. It’s powerful. Grant Cardone who I’ve interviewed on my show a couple of times, talks about writing your goals down every morning and every night. That may be overkill, but it is important to stay associated with them and do them regularly because they evolve over time. That’s how you get what you want is not so much about the technical, it’s about being motivated enough to take action, push through fear, push through limiting beliefs and frankly to get uncomfortable. Comfort zones are a warm place but nothing grows there. You’ve got to get uncomfortable.
The 2008 crash, then it took you a couple of months’ time you did this.
I lost it all but then I pulled myself up and said, “Quit being a little wuss,” because where focus goes, energy flows. If you want to focus on getting rid of debt, what do you think is going to build? You need to focus on the income to eliminate the debt. Be careful how you articulate what you’re going to focus on. I knew I needed to focus on what I wanted, not what I didn’t want. That’s what I did.
I don’t know of anyone who’s lost that much, but then come back to where you’re at. You’ve done amazing things.
It’s easier the second time around, but let me add one little caveat on the goal thing that’s important. A couple of months after I built that house on the beach, this place was incredible. It’s a ten thousand square feet, giant spiral staircase up through the middle. On the second floor, I had these aquariums that were twenty feet long, curved around the staircase, custom made. It was $200,000 just for the aquariums. I owned the beach on one side. I had the boathouse on the backside, an elevator. I had a giant waterfall from the second floor into the pool. It’s incredible and I could go on and on. The point is a couple of months after I built this thing that I’d worked on for many years that I knew I wanted for many years. I was floating in the pool at night, my family was inside sleeping and the warm water and the pool is changing colors at night. I was looking up at this giant testament to my ego, which is what it was. It was something I did to prove to the world I was good enough. I was looking up at this thing that I built and I got depressed. Not just feeling bad, I got depressed. I was like, “What is going on?” When I look back on it, there were two things that were happening with me.
This is what I want to share with your readers. One is never achieve a big goal without having other goals lined up behind it. Like the good book says, “Without a vision, the people perish.” You need a vision for the future. I didn’t have that. It’s important that you make sure you have other goals lined up. The second bigger thing was I had been totally focused on Rod. It was to show the world I’m good enough, which was stuff from my childhood, getting picked on and that I had to prove something. It’s stupid stuff that a lot of us face. I went and saw Tony Robbins that year and saw that he fed families for the holidays.
That year I fed five families and it changed my life. Now I’ve fed 65,000 children over the holidays. I’ve done 20,000 backpacks filled with school supplies. I’ve done 20,000 teddy bears to local police departments for officers to keep in their cars when they encounter a child who’s been traumatized. It’s been my greatest gift in life. I was successful, but I was unfulfilled. There’s a big difference between the two. Tony calls it the science of achievement versus the art of fulfillment. I’ve interviewed people on my show who are mega-millionaires, that I can recognize where I was back then. They were totally focused on themselves. They’re not happy. Success without that piece is not real success. I want to share that with your readers. I know you reading this, you want financial success. I’m here to tell you that without that piece, it’s not a success.
What a blessing that you’re able to realize that.
I get into all this in great detail at my live events and I’d love to put a plug in for my next one in Baltimore, September 27th, 28th and 29th. I’ll give you a code and it’s Whitney. If they put in that code Whitney, they’ll get $100 off and it’s cheap anyway. It’s ridiculously reasonable. It’s me teaching for three days. You’ve been to one of my events.
It’s worthwhile. It’s the best money you’ll spend learning how to get into this industry.
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RodInBaltimore.com is the website. They can text the word Multifamily to 41411 and we’ll send the information. Remember, use that code Whitney for $100 off. It’s me training for three days. There are no outside speakers coming in to sell stuff. We’d love to add value. The second thing, the last thing I want to say is to your audience, you know you are who you hang around with. Make sure you’re going to real estate meetup groups. I’ve got an incredible Facebook group. It’s almost 28,000 people in there now. If you go to MultifamilyCommunity.com, it’s a direct link to that group and there’s no promotion allowed in there. It’s education. It’s a great place to learn and be around people that want more, which is critical because you’re going to end up being the sum total of the five people you hang around with on every level, health, happiness and financially. It’s important to surround yourself with people that want more.
Rod, the mindset, as far as in the industry itself, what are you doing differently now than you were before 2008?
That’s why I started my podcast. If I’d just been in multifamily, I would’ve survived. My multifamily did fine. My mistake was I cross-collateralized my apartment buildings with my houses, I’d want them in the same loans. I lost it all. My multifamily would have survived because of the houses that pulled me down the way that I did it. I started my podcast for two reasons. One, I hate asking for money. I thought if I add value, I can propose deals. The second big reason was I wanted to share that. If you’re going to buy real estate to hold long-term, do multifamily, don’t do houses. It’s easier. It’s faster. It’s more scalable. It’s the same amount of work for a ten-unit as it is for a house. Plus as multifamilies, you know it’s a team sport. You can raise all the money. You put a team together and you can do it. Even if you haven’t got any money, you’ve got no credit, you have no experience. Put a team together to get it done. It’s why we love this business.
Going forward, it’s only multifamily and you’re syndicating large deals. How many units in the last few months did you say?
I’ve done 900 in the last 120 days, 1,000 in the last few months. We’re going to do another 1,000 soon. Lots of people submit deals to us. I’ve got a whole coaching program. A lot of our coaching students submit deals. I’m in tens of thousands of deals every week. If I put it out on my podcast, “We’ve got a deal,” our dance card gets pretty full. We’re conservative on our deals. If someone’s reading and they’re accredited, they want to talk to us, text Partner to 41411 and we’ll get you on our calendar. We’ll do deals at 65% loan-to-value. We’ll put $1 million in an operating reserve, a rainy day fund. We’re conservative in our investments, but we only deal with accredited investors. If you’re not accredited, I can’t work with you, but if you’re accredited, definitely reach out or go to REMCapitalPartners.com and that’s our website for our deals.
Are there any other ways where you all are being as conservative as possible?
Our stress testing is incredibly stringent. If a property doesn’t stand on its own day one at 25% vacant, we don’t do it. If it doesn’t stand on its own at 35% vacant in five years, we won’t do it. If the numbers don’t make sense with a 1% bump in the exit cap, the cap rate when we sell, we won’t do it. Robert, my CFO, he’s a CPA and he’s done hundreds of millions of dollars’ worth of deals. He’s the numbers guy. I can read a financial. I’m pretty good at it, but I don’t love it. He does a lot of our evaluation and we’re in the process of hiring some people on our asset management team and to help with the frontline due diligence researching prospective deals.
I’m blessed because this whole ecosystem is being created by my live events. I had 600 people in Denver. It was cool because my mom was there. She’s in an assisted living. She was in the front row in a wheelchair and I’m behind the curtain crying because she’s the reason I did this and that’s 600 people there. It was amazing. Almost half of them had been to one of my events before because they know to keep coming back. It’s a team sport. Where you in the Denver one, Whitney?
I did not get to come to the Denver one, unfortunately. You have all these guys on stage that are experts and been in this business a while, including Rod. They stayed up there until after 10:00 PM whatnot answering questions from the audience.
We usually have about a billion to billion-and-a-half on stage doing Q and A. Those were all in my mastermind. It’s a lot of fun.
What’s a way that you all have improved your business like your syndication business that we can all apply to ours?
We found a good portal. I don’t want to plug it yet though. It’s with one of my coaches. I don’t want to plug it until we know that we love it, but we’ve got a portal that we think we like to communicate with our investors. There are expensive ones out there. That’s been one. In our organization, we love Slack and we love Asana. Slack to communicate between team members and Asana for project management. Asana is a great way to track properties as well, which we are starting to use to track our deals, pictures, all the documents and the whole flow of the project in Asana.
I appreciate that tip too. That’s something we’ve been working through. We’re using Asana as well. What’s your best advice for caring for investors?
Educate them. I spend so much time on webinars educating them on the behind the scenes stuff. There are many little nuances I can’t teach from the stage. Our investors get an education via investing with us. I do webinars. For those of you that can curate articles about whatever your submarket is, send that to them, have investor events and we’re behind the eight ball on those two things. We need to do both those things. We’re busy acquiring, but I do focus on the education piece. It’s not just telling them about the property, it’s why we’re doing what we’re doing, the little nuances of what we’re doing. Education is where it’s at. If someone’s going to invest their hard-earned money, they should learn what it is you’re investing in. If you’re reading, come to one of my events, even if you don’t plan to do it actively. Before you give your money to someone, know a little bit about it.
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Use the code Whitney and get $100 off. I appreciate you sharing your story. It’s an amazing story of losing it all and coming back. The way you’ve done it is amazing. Many of us can learn so much from it. I hope you will go to Rod’s event. Is there any other way that people should be able to contact you?
My website has tons of free stuff. Free books, free articles and free videos. It’s RodKhleif.com. I’ve got a due diligence checklist on there. It’s the best in the business. It’s free. Go get it. Trust me. If you’re evaluating a property, ask every question. It looks under every rock. Go get that at the website.
I ask every guest how they give back, but you nailed it. We’ve covered that. Unless there’s some other way you want to talk about how you give back.
It’s been amazing. There was a kid they found wandering down a big street here in Sarasota and they didn’t know who the parents were. They found the parents after a few hours. They had a picture of him in the paper. He had one of our bears in his arm, which was cool. It validated what we do.
Rod, thank you so much. I appreciate your time. I appreciate you being on the show and providing value to many. I appreciate the readers being with us now and every day. I hope you’ll go to Life Bridge Capital and also connect with me. I’m happy to help you in any way I can. Go to The Real Estate Syndication Show on Facebook so we can all learn from experts like Rod and grow our businesses together. We will talk to each of you soon.
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About Rod Khleif
Rod Khleif is a multiple business owner and philanthropist who is passionate about real estate, business, and giving back. As one of the country’s top business, real estate and peak performance luminaries, Rod has owned over 2000 homes and apartment buildings and has built over 22 businesses in his 40 year business career several which have been worth tens of millions of dollars.
Rod Khleif soared from humble beginnings as a young, impoverished Dutch immigrant to incredible success. Khleif’s experience involves both remarkable triumphs, and spectacular failures, which he affectionately calls “seminars.” Rod will explain the mindset required to recover from losing $50mm in the crash of 2008 to the success he enjoys today. Rod brings incredible authenticity and insight to his approach to real estate, business, success and life.
Rod can talk about the psychology of success, and any real estate and business topic in great depth, contributing incredible first-hand, technical, and motivational knowledge and skills to any real estate, business or success based discussion. Rod also founded The Tiny Hands Foundation, which has benefited more than 50,000 community children in need.
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